Diskusní fórum modelářů

stavebnica je všetkým známy kliklak , z doplnkov len zoomy a placardy od edy, quickboost motor a zameriavač a hlavne masters , kamo nechcem nič prevarené ale dám niečo z výborných dekálov od SKY Models a favorita mám od 5th Emergencyn Rescue Squadron , stavba bude pojatá štýlom žaves

Do Mošoně bude Lubo?

Výběr slibuje žaves se vším všudy ... tož ať se to splní

marku mošon tento rok vypúšťam , martin dík , pri tejto príležitosti som vytiahol zo skrine aj "Johnniho" a dolepil mu konečne odtrhnutú ostruhu , idem ešte dnes nafúkať interier do základu nech to odsýpa...

Lubo,tohle éro si zasouží si s ním trochu pohrát.Jednoho zadělanýho už máš,tak zkus do tého trocha říznut. Jinak výběr pěknej . Mám doma též,ale bez výbavy.Tak budu koukat jak ti to jde.

Thuderbolt do každé rodiny! A když je to druhej, budete mít kvalitnější život.... to je jasný, budu sledovat!

ajajajaaaajjj... lubco.. tak na toto som od teba zvedavy.. . skoda tej mosone...

Pokud si vybereš zbarvení 5th Emergencyn Rescue Squadron, tak si dej pozor.
Stroj co je v obtiscích má několik podob a obtisky na aršíku SKY Models nejsou kompletní.

Lubomír Kerék píše:marku mošon tento rok vypúšťam , martin dík , pri tejto príležitosti som vytiahol zo skrine aj "Johnniho" a dolepil mu konečne odtrhnutú ostruhu , idem ešte dnes nafúkať interier do základu nech to odsýpa...

Zdravím Vás,ospravedlňujem sa, ale chcel by som sa opýtať na Vašu voľbu farby interiéru, nakoľko na 1:32 to bolo rozoberané, a tam sa nakoniec zhodli na nejakej olivovo zelenej (bronzová).Na stole mám chirurgicky rozrobené Kansas Totnádo a nechcel by som spraviť chybu vo výbere farby interiéru.Podvozkové šachty, a všetko ostatné by malo byť zinc chromate.Ďakujem za odpoveď a ešte raz sa ospravedlňujem za moje otázky, ale dvakrát merať a raz rezať.

chlapci dík , peter dík za foto - to som netušil že v tom môže byť nejaká nezrovnalosť , skúsim o tom popátrať a uvidím čo s tým ... karol práve kvôli tej farbe som to nakoniec včera ešte nestrekol , podla jedných fotiek to vyzerá na klasickú tú tmavšiu interierovku a niekde na bronze green , asi si ju nejako približne namiešam z c351 , nemáte niekto presný recept ?

Já bronze green míchal z normální US interior green + černá. Výsledná tmavá zelená mě plně dostačovala.

Ak by mohli byt aj fraby Tamiya tak pomer bol v modelari 5/2006 Avenger od Villalbu.

Jedna otázočka ak môžem.
To čo má TONY podvesené na tom letovom zábere?

Pokud mne paměť neklame, tak by to měl být záchraný člun, a ta malá bombička má náplň se značkovací barvou. Když tak mne opravte.

karolv píše:

Lubomír Kerék píše:marku mošon tento rok vypúšťam , martin dík , pri tejto príležitosti som vytiahol zo skrine aj "Johnniho" a dolepil mu konečne odtrhnutú ostruhu , idem ešte dnes nafúkať interier do základu nech to odsýpa...

Zdravím Vás,ospravedlňujem sa, ale chcel by som sa opýtať na Vašu voľbu farby interiéru, nakoľko na 1:32 to bolo rozoberané, a tam sa nakoniec zhodli na nejakej olivovo zelenej (bronzová).Na stole mám chirurgicky rozrobené Kansas Totnádo a nechcel by som spraviť chybu vo výbere farby interiéru.Podvozkové šachty, a všetko ostatné by malo byť zinc chromate.Ďakujem za odpoveď a ešte raz sa ospravedlňujem za moje otázky, ale dvakrát merať a raz rezať.

V interiéru by měla být Dark Dull Green. Přelouskej si stať z IPMS Stockholm viz níže

Republic P-47 Thunderbolt
The subject of cockpit colours of the P-47 seems to have thus far defied conclusive analysis. Surviving P-47s and contemporary photos show a dark green shade in the cockpit, similar or possibly equal to Dull Dark Green. This is in contrast with the available Erection and Maintenance manuals which invariably call for green-tinted primer in cockpit areas.

The 1944 Erection and Maintenance Instructions covering P-47C, G and D state that "cockpits shall be finished with one coat of tinted zinc chromate primer to eliminate glare resulting from untinted primer." As can bee seen, the use of "tinted primer" is not consistent with the Dark Dull Green found in other evidence.

Perhaps an explanation is to be found in the formula of tinted primer given in the above manual. Nowhere in the above document is the tinted Zinc Chromate specified to match ANA Interior Green. Instead, the specifications include a rudimentary mixing formula, described as one gallon Black to one gallon Yellow Zinc Chromate primer. The formula is probably an error. If the intended colour was to be Interior Green, the document should have stated 1/10 gallon Black to 1 gallon Zinc Chromate, consistent with other Erection and Maintenance documents of the period.

A possibility remains that Republic followed the instructions to the letter, obtaining some sort of black-green colour for the cockpit areas. Other hypotheses claim that the colour used could be Bronze Green or Dull Dark Green. Another mystery.

Another conventional wisdom states that Curtiss-built P-47Gs differed from Republic-build P-47Ds by having Interior Green (actually, Curtiss Cockpit Green) in the cockpit and wheel well areas. However, this does not seem to be consistent with examination of wrecked P-47G parts, which show Dark Dull Green in the cockpit.

Since there were less than 200 P-47Gs made and they were only used for training in the US, this controversy is of limited interest to modellers, which would usually be interested in Republic-made Thunderbolts.

According to the Erection and Maintenance manuals, the fuselage decking under the bubble canopy of the P-47D from the windscreen to the area aft of the cockpit armour plating, was to be painted Dark Olive Drab 41, the same colour being specified for the anti-glare area of the forward fuselage. Armour plating was specified to the same colour as the interior finish of the cockpit.

Another yet unresolved mystery is the turtleback area beneath the rearmost cockpit window of the razorback versions. Many variants have been called for, but the most likely choices (based on the available contemporary colour photographs) are Olive Drab for the early camouflaged aircraft, and some kind of medium grey further down in the production.

According to factory instructions, the fuselage decking inside the canopy on bubbletop Thunderbolts was to be painted in Olive Drab, with the inside of the canopy framing in flat black. The rear armour plate in the cockpit was to be painted to match the cockpit interior colour.

Interiors of P47 aircraft cowlings were natural metal. The aluminium in this area was anodised giving a darker and very dull greyish appearance. The engine firewall was left unpainted. Engine mounts were primed in Zinc Chromate Green.

All other interior surfaces of the fuselage with exception of the firewall were finished in Zinc Chromate Yellow. This included also wheel wells, undercarriage covers and armament compartments in the wings.

Undercarriage legs were painted Dark Olive Drab 41 on camouflaged aircraft. This practice continued over to at least some natural metal machines. At some point in production the requirement seems to have changed to allow an Aluminium lacquer finish to be used.


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