Vsetko o MiG-25 a MiG-31

[Tchert]

Petr Zatrepalek, davidSK >> Děkuju za radu

[Milos984]

Alžírke "Foxbat-y" končia (základňa Aïn Oussera, 120ème Escadron de Defense Aerienne)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/4875431 ... %2CO%2CP-R
podľa toho čo som dostal info od jedného Alžírčana, zásoba náhradných dielov je už takmer vyčerpaná a dokonca sa vraj už nedajú zohnať ani pneumatiky.
Prevádzkovať zostávajúce sa už nevyplatí.
Ich úlohy v rámci PPVO by mali prevziať MiGy-29S.

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[Martin Černý 'Černoch']

Vydrželi dlouho, obdivuhodné.

[kalimero]

K čertu. Na Yandexu jsem trefil článek o Migu-25 v Syrii. Za 2 roky kdy letaly nad celým Izraelem, po nich vypálili 340 raket jak PVO tak leteckych. Průměrná rychlost 2890 km/h. Dodnes drží rekord ve stoupani
25km za 2 min 34 vteřin a max.dostup 34km. A vlastně jako první sestřelil dron nad Irakem. Hm, ten článek jsem si neulozil, já hlava derava.

[LuMar]

Je fakt,že to lietadlo nemá konkurenciu.

[kalimero]

Ruskije bogatyry

[Milos984]

K čertu. Na Yandexu jsem trefil článek o Migu-25 v Syrii. Za 2 roky kdy letaly nad celým Izraelem, po nich vypálili 340 raket jak PVO tak leteckych...

Oficiálnu dokumentáciu asi necitujú???
Nie že by som Izraelcov považoval za nadpriemerne pravdovravných alebo že by sa radi delili o svoje neúspechy, lenže...
...lenže pri práci na publikácií o Irackom letectve som prešiel a haldu materiálov aj zo Sýrie a myslím si svoje aj o materiáloch z ruského prostredia. Pokiaľ nejde o "doklady načalstvu" s pečiatkou príslušného archívu MO RF, zostávam skeptický.
ADDENDA: nešlo mi o spochybnenie článku v štýle že to tak určite nemohlo byť.
Ale po tých rokoch práce na tematike Irackého letectva, som skeptický. Dôvod je že zdrojom pre ten článok asi nie je priamo Sýrske MO. Izraelská strana asi tiež nepublikovala svoje oficiálne materiály. Teda zostáva možnosť že ide o materiáli niektorého z ruských inštruktorov pôsobiacich v Sýrii v 80-tych rokoch.
Myslel som aj na tohto pána: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 38&__cft__[0]=AZUGH9_4WZizFiXDaWyiQixlRmeP28lIpEdtZqDzaAYL2p485bSzNhVT4VrfL88ARjgEZh06HZNvorxDQNNiid5vphCcgldmADbrMbH5q2Dc9SIK4OXaeRbdnliu0XbWGnqUohFQ5JLdRx9_U9AJFVll&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R ale zrejme nie, nakoľko spomína stíhacích pilotov a nie prieskumákov.
Preklad cez google z arabčiny.

An American company specialized in anti-missile systems has carried out a process of research and development ... for a generation of long-range air-to-air missiles ... capable of shooting down cruise missiles and hard-to-reach targets ... It is led by the martyr Muhammad al-Muezzin, one of the pilots of the first special session, which took place in 1981, and among Israeli F-15 aircraft from the (Buzz Squadron) .. The study concluded that the F-15 radar, which had a range of approximately 220 km at that time. With the Sparrow missiles, which have a range of 56 km at that time, they are unable to reach the flight altitude of the MiG 25, and if they do arrive, they are unable to pursue, and if they were able to pursue after the capture, the Sparrow 7 Im defect killed the escape in the last moments of collision with the target..and this is documented in the records of the US Air Force and the weapon The air for the US Navy ... upon reaching a dead end in this direction..this company sought, through a network of special interests, to access highly classified files related to the air wars in the Middle East, specifically Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Libya ... so the next version of the air battle in 1981 was Between the Syrian Air Force and the Israeli Air Force ...
On February 13, 1981, when Israeli F-15 aircraft flew over Lebanon, attempting to intercept an incoming Syrian MiG 25, a pilot of 15,000 captured the MiG 25 in conjunction with the MiG 25's arrest of the F15, which fired two Sparrow missiles at the target, and the MiG 25 pilot fired an R40 missile. Long-range..At the last moments of the collision, the two Sparrow missiles escaped from the last shutdown before colliding a few hundred meters, and a pilot saw 15 thousands of huge missiles coming in the direction and tried to avoid them, but he shot down the plane. And fell. Here, 8 Israeli F-15 planes lurked out and exchanged missiles at the plane of the Syrian pilot, the hero Muhammad al-Moazin, which escaped from some of them and hit the fuselage of the plane, damaging it and several missiles followed it. Until it fell after the tenth missile..Did you hear the tenth in addition to two missiles fired at the beginning of the engagement, gentlemen narrators of Arab military history (copy and paste journalists) from the mouth of Israel. You understood something, children .. Sharm ... ..these is the details of that battle..And thousands of fifteen were shot down, and Israel denied after continuous work for 3 days to collect the remnants of the F15..this is what the American gunsmith understood about the defects of an American long-range air-to-air missile. To cover the loss, the Americans began a deeper, serious search for the reason for the success of the Israeli Air Force against the MiG-25, to begin with another shock.
...
And continue what we started:
When the group investigating the details of the Israeli F15's shooting down of the Syrian MiG-25 arrived, they wrote an amazing phrase on that file:
(Details of the Syrian MiG-25 shooting down an Israeli F15 plane ... with great numerical superiority).
The days rolled by and the US-made missile and F-15 aircraft were still weaker than the MiG-25 shot down in a remote missile battle
But the contract of the former Soviet Union fell apart ... and the American arms companies acquired a large share of the Soviet Union's scientists and inventors ... until a former member of the KGB KGB arrived to the United States ... and when he engaged in one of the sensitive jobs he explained the following:
Formed. KGB is a secret intelligence cell whose mission is to understand the reasons for the fall of two Syrian MiG-25 aircraft in the war with Israel, and the third was wounded, after which the pilot returned to land ... and this is after the Soviet experts' inability to answer
I will call you a summary of what the Soviets revealed:
In Syria, a group of Soviet experts, pilots and technicians ... pilots of the Jewish religion have been collecting information on the most accurate details and personalities of the Syrian Air Force ... and there is one expert technician who manipulated the calibration of the air pressure capsule, setting the altitude for the Syrian MiG-25 aircraft..and the manipulation was very scientific. The error rate in altitude is very large at an altitude of 22 km, reaching 4.5 km or a little more..so the Soviet intelligence understood that there is a common denominator between the aircraft that fell is a flight height of much less than 18 km .. the expert was secretly withdrawn from Syria ... without Noise ... here it was closed ... the investigation group ... the reason for those air results and the cover-up of the American McDonald Douglas company on Israel ...
Later ... the Americans discovered by chance by eavesdropping on
Talks between Israeli Mossad officers..they were double loyal to CIA and the Mossad..the process of inserting a sleeping substance in tea and coffee drinks for Syrian pilots during night flight operations that led to the death of a number of Syrian pilots with several models from almost all airports ... A chemical that was found in the laboratories of CIA activates this substance in the human body after 35 minutes suddenly and effectively..It was stolen .. it reached Israel and was later used against the Syrian air force. This is the beginning of the conversation, not the end, we will continue later

[kalimero]

Yandex je spíš takové tlachani. Občas vzpominky pamětníků, které zapsal třeba někdo jiný. Jako když se slezou po dlouhý době rybáři. Nebo vzpomínky námořníků a tak. Já tam hledám hlavně starý fotky. Taky na forum.airbase.ru lze něco najít. Jen mít více času. Držím palce při hledání dalších informací.

[Joe111]

Ahojte, neviem kde by som sa mohol na toto spytat, tak skusim tu. Nakolko moja otazka ma spojitost prave s Mig-25 a Mig-31.

Potrebujem kupit rakety R-40 v mierke 1/48. V ponuke su (ako asi viete) bud od vyrobcu Plus model alebo Reskit. Ani s jednou firmou nemam skusenosti. Vedeli by ste mi poradit ktore su lepsej kvality?






dakujem

Jozo

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[ferost]

Keďže zatiaľ nikto na Tvoj dotaz nereaguje ....

Doplnky od Plus model som zatiaľ v ruke nemal, takže kvalitu a vzhľad neviem posúdiť.
Doplnky od Reskitu mám nakúpené skoro na každý model ... vyzerajú veľmi dobre a na doporučený model aj sedia dobre.
Toť môj postreh.

[Joe111]

Keďže zatiaľ nikto na Tvoj dotaz nereaguje ....

Doplnky od Plus model som zatiaľ v ruke nemal, takže kvalitu a vzhľad neviem posúdiť.
Doplnky od Reskitu mám nakúpené skoro na každý model ... vyzerajú veľmi dobre a na doporučený model aj sedia dobre.
Toť môj postreh.

Dakujem za odporucanie. Skusim teda Reskit...

[Milos984]

Iracký narukávny znak pre pozemnú inžiniersku službu lietadiel MiG-25 ("Projekt 84") https://www.facebook.com/groups/4875431 ... 2/?__cft__[0]=AZXqT5hKXRoHGZA64E4JtFYX7SeIBlwYnd0TefiFyllU27N9BeiHbwATSEkompCTzCi4p0lXRTabixhaqEzr2WTD3dT8DNvcH7hN32bFvBYlfslljiJb1jkt0JDknaLQjusK-Otf8E5OuUSJv3mRdMC7&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R

https://www.facebook.com/groups/4875431 ... 7714672872

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[cowboy]

Po prečítaní skvelej knihy Iraqui Mirages ma začalo zaujímať Iracké letectvo - zaujímalo by ma, či je na Migoch 25 RB a RBT možná konfigurácia s veľkou podtrupovou nádržou a bombami pod krídlami.
A ak áno, tak aké bomby to zvykli byť?
Nenašiel som k tomu žiadne fotky

[Kubouš]

Jestli to nosili i iráčani těžko říct, ale pro tenhle typ byly určeny žáruvzdorné 500 kg pumy FAB-500M-62T, standardní 250 kg pumy FAB-250M-62 nebo standardní 500 kg pumy FAB-500M-62.

[Milos984]

Po prečítaní skvelej knihy Iraqui Mirages ma začalo zaujímať Iracké letectvo - zaujímalo by ma, či je na Migoch 25 RB a RBT možná konfigurácia s veľkou podtrupovou nádržou a bombami pod krídlami.
A ak áno, tak aké bomby to zvykli byť?
Nenašiel som k tomu žiadne fotky

Pozdravujem.
V závislosti od vzdialenosti cieľa sa používala kombinácia podtrupovej prídavnej nádrže a 4 až 8 bômb FAB-500M62T.
Fotky z operačného pôsobenia Irackých MiGov-25 sú z objektívnych príčin veľmi raritné, ak by sa nejaké objavila bol by to malý zázrak.
Viac k operačnému nasadeniu Irackých "FOxbat-ov" prinesie https://www.helion.co.uk/military-histo ... 48b49bd26d na jeseň tohto roka.